Disgusted / Ghost Hunters Last Night.

Wow...was my thoughts! For claiming to be experts, they should be aware of these things. I concur Tim....although I must confess they sorta lost my respect a while back. Well Jason did anyway with his "I'm all That" blogs and bulletins all over myspace.
Heck, in my opinion if experiences make you an expert (as Jason obviously thinks) than I am Einstein hahah...(psst. and I know I'm not!)

I don't understand why the resurch team didn't do a simple check on the place myself. You would think with all thats on the line broadcasting a show like this they didn't atleast Goggle it like you say Tim. I know theres more to this story then there letting on.
I don't like the fact that the distillery didn't disclose the gadgets , but its not like it's not common knowlage.
Good call Tim. Alot of people would of over looked a fact like that. 😉

I have found myself saying "Oh Puleeeeze" so many times while watching GH, that I only watch it now to see what prank Steve will play on Tango next. To me, GH has just become another Most Haunted.

Always remember: GH airs on the Science FICTION channel.

I'm wondering if Pilgrim does all the research for the show. And seeing as Pilgrim wants television ratings and have little to no interest in real paranormal investigating, they probably decided not to tell TAPS about it.

If TAPS actually did not know about the MBD effects, then this episode showed that TAPS is a bush league investigative group only concerned with being on television.

I agree... I only watch for #1 because usually nothing else on.. and #2 The Tango / Steve things that go on. I am So very disappointed in their shows now as they have become so edited and what not. I am so sick of Grant or some one saying did you see that?... Umm well NO WE DIDN'T.

Which brings me to Livescifi...I hype this group to all my friends and team as you guys show whats going on..if you see something we see it too.

Kudo's to LSF for all their work and doing actual Investigating. So tired of hearing GH say Debunk this and Debunk that... comeon we know what you do by now. Lets do some real work GH 's instead of acting parts now.

I think it's kinda funny they were dupped... But if they were supposively so good, they would have known better like Tim stated. My hubby hates this show now that he won't even watch it.

Much love LSF and keep up the great work and the real investigating...This is why we all tune in 😉

We love you guys !!!

OH bit of info for you all.... A friend told me that they don't do the set up as they claim, they have a team pre-set up before they get there and break down after...all they do is show up. I even find it hard to believe they are plumbers..between the show and conventions...when do they have the time to work???

I find it amusing that Jay and Grant don't even go thru their own footage and audio...what the heck do they do while there little slaves sit there and comb thru hours of it (if in fact they actually do it and its not for show)

So lets see...hmmm...they don't set up their own equipment, they show up and tape a few hours, then go do "whatever" and come find out what goods were caught..if none fake some (ha sorry couldn't resist) then do the reveal as if they spent all the time looking for the evidence.

I suspect Rotter Rooter doesn't even have them on the payroll anymore, probably just keeps the facade for free advertising.

In their down time, they are busy posting blogs all over myspace about how wonderful and experienced they are ...blah..blah..blah

NO THANKS!

WARNING: this will not be a popular opinion

While we didn't encounter any paranormal activity there, we were treated with great hospitality. respect.....and notified about the various props that they had set up around the restraunt to promote the haunting...

should 'gh' have investigated further prior to going in? YES, there is no doubt

yet, why weren't they told, as your team was, about the props/pranks....did they just want to be able to boast that they had fooled the 'gh' team to gain noteriety?
to me, that is disrespectful
and when confronted all the dude did was laugh.....
i'd have especially been ticked if i had injured myself while searching out the props (would any of you want someone from this team hurt investigating pranks?)

i'm not a 'fangirl' of theirs so please, don't attack me to hard 😆

peace

why weren't they told, as your team was, about the props/pranks....did they just want to be able to boast that they had fooled the 'gh' team to gain noteriety?
to me, that is disrespectful
and when confronted all the dude did was laugh.....

The dude laughed because Pilgrim was informed.

They filmed this on the same trip they investigated the Presidio. So what was their whining about a wasted trip?

http://www.mossbeachdistillery.com/loydauerbachcomments-ghosthuntersepisode.html

So is the Eastern State Ghost a tennis shoe wearing Pilgrim production assistant?

WARNING: this will not be a popular opinion

While we didn't encounter any paranormal activity there, we were treated with great hospitality. respect.....and notified about the various props that they had set up around the restraunt to promote the haunting...

should 'gh' have investigated further prior to going in? YES, there is no doubt

yet, why weren't they told, as your team was, about the props/pranks....did they just want to be able to boast that they had fooled the 'gh' team to gain noteriety?
to me, that is disrespectful
and when confronted all the dude did was laugh.....
i'd have especially been ticked if i had injured myself while searching out the props (would any of you want someone from this team hurt investigating pranks?)

i'm not a 'fangirl' of theirs so please, don't attack me to hard 😆

peace

I'm with squirlz on this one. To me, it seems like the guys at Moss Peak (if they did tell you guys about the props and have told other teams about the props) maybe wanted GH to look like fools? I dunno.

Regardless though....didn't I read somewhere on these forums that this isn't a place for bashing other teams regardless of whether we agree with their tactics?

Not trying to be bitchy...trying to keep things civil, actually.

why weren't they told, as your team was, about the props/pranks....did they just want to be able to boast that they had fooled the 'gh' team to gain noteriety?
to me, that is disrespectful
and when confronted all the dude did was laugh.....

The dude laughed because Pilgrim was informed.

They filmed this on the same trip they investigated the Presidio. So what was their whining about a wasted trip?

http://www.mossbeachdistillery.com/loydauerbachcomments-ghosthuntersepisode.html

So is the Eastern State Ghost a tennis shoe wearing Pilgrim production assistant?

They tend to do that like the St Aug LItehouse was one trip and they broke it into 2 shows.

Just check out the SAPS site...you'll learn all about how GH dubes all of us

I found this at the TAPS site. Thought it was worth a look.

Loyd Auerbach has given me permission to post the following statement about
Moss Beach Distillery. Loyd here discusses genuine paranormal phenomena
at the Distillery and their relation to the rigged effects at the Distillery.
Hopefully this will help Ghost Hunters fans better assess next week's
episode, which features TAPS investigation of the Distillery.

From Loyd Auerbach:
"I was involved in the initial set up of the special
effects at the Moss Beach Distillery in the late 1990s --
which are computer-controlled/recorded recreations of some
of the reported phenomena at the Distillery, phenomena
which began in the early 1930s. However, the effects were
deliberately set up with specific lamps that were not
previously reported as moving (it was other lamps), a
different mirror in the ladies room (different from the
mirror where the ghost's image has been seen multiple
times), etc.

"The computer records all simulated effects, and individual
activations. In that way, if there's any question as to
whether 'the ghost did it' or not, there's a record to
check.

"No effort to hide the effects has been made. I (Loyd
Auerbach) have discussed the effects in several televised
and print interviews, on multiple radio shows, and in his
extensive write-up of the Moss Beach Distillery case in his
book A PARANORMAL CASEBOOK (Atriad Press, 2005). In one
major cable show (which constantly repeats) detailing
haunts in the Bay Area, the Distillery was featured and the
segment included the special effects.

"Googling the Moss Beach Distillery brings up articles that
mention the special effects.

"I spoke with a producer identifying himself as working on
GHOST HUNTERS several days before the team was to go to the
Distillery. While the conversation was about the Presidio
in San Francisco, the subject of the Distillery came up --
I asked specifically if they were aware of the special
effects. I was told they were.

"The likely reason neither the owner nor the manager
mentioned them is because there are SO many places where
the effects are mentioned. Anyone doing even light
research on the phenomena in sources less than 10 years old
can hardly help but run across discussion of the effects.

"Finally, the reported phenomena has been occurring since
the early 1930s. I got involved in 1991 and have conducted
numerous investigations there before any special effects
were installed. There has been real, documented physical
phenomena at the Distillery prior to the installation of
the effects. I have personally had numerous experiences
there -- something I can't say about a lot of places.

"I helped with that installation (consulting, helping to
get the initial contractors, and more). The phenomena is
real. The phenomena went on for over 65 years before the
effects were even conceived of. The effects are fun, to add
to the 'experience' of the restaurant. And the effects are
no secret."

As much as we want GH to show what really happens on hunt...
just remember,
It's a TV show for entertainment.
I really want then to be true to the profession but I have to remind myself
it's TV.

As much as we want GH to show what really happens on hunt...
just remember,
It's a TV show for entertainment.
I really want then to be true to the profession but I have to remind myself
it's TV.

I agree, I guess the part that really bothered me is that they blamed and slander'd the restraunt, all because TAPs didn't properly research there location.
It really sucks for other paranormal groups who want to investigate the phenomena out there in the futre because I sure that they will be more closed minded to it, as well with other buisnesses who may have watched the show.

I too am with Squirlz and MelanieS with this one....I don't understand the bashing other teams regardless of whether we agree or disagree with their tactics...