Private Res/Demon Haunting - April15'08 -investigation notes

I don't know about actually 'hacking'.. but I have heard and experienced 'cloning' of a person in chat in another chatroom I frequented back in early 2000-2001... where a person in chat can do some code to make it appear someone else is chatting.. it was all done in fun back during that time and the person whose name was cloned was in the room and denying saying things... we knew what was happening... and we eventually figured out who was doing it... all in fun

I am wondering Tim if this is something along those lines... can you check the Forums for this particular chat you have.. the User ones and get some idea if this 'cloning' has occured in this Version of Java chat you have here on this website.

With that in mind.... if it was 'cloning'... how odd that this person knew that both Krzy and sara were away from the keyboard.. Krzy did not say in the room she was heading away to see about her son.. don't know if sara said a thing when she stepped away to see her kids.... this is the part that is kinda odd.

Just my thoughts on this.. dang creepy.

hmmm, is it possible to register to chat with a duplicate screen name. For example, is it possible for someone else to choose the name warpedandtwisted, or Sara, or Krzymoose? If so I would think that one of our "old friends" may be trying to get a reaction out of us and so is planting these little demons under a duplicate screen names. This might be the same concept of the cloning, im not sure.
Either way, maybe the person just was waiting for the real sara or Krzy to not be in the conversation for a while and assumed that they were afk or were watching the feeds on full screen. Either that or they didn't care if the real sara or krzy saw and it just happened to be a happy coincidence that they were away.

hmmm, is it possible to register to chat with a duplicate screen name. For example, is it possible for someone else to choose the name warpedandtwisted, or Sara, or Krzymoose? If so I would think that one of our "old friends" may be trying to get a reaction out of us and so is planting these little demons under a duplicate screen names. This might be the same concept of the cloning, im not sure.
Either way, maybe the person just was waiting for the real sara or Krzy to not be in the conversation for a while and assumed that they were afk or were watching the feeds on full screen. Either that or they didn't care if the real sara or krzy saw and it just happened to be a happy coincidence that they were away.

When a person registers it does not allow duplicate screen names. If that name was chosen you have to pick another.

I was traveling last night and now I am really sorry I missed the investigation. This is very interesting. I'm wondering if there is a way to change your nickname in the chat...similar to what you can do in Ustream.

In Ustream, you can type nick/"new nickname" and it will change your nickname while in chat. Does the livescifi chat have a similar feature? If so, this could provide an explanation. Also, I agree with KRZY that the IP addresses should be logged. This would tell you if the message came from the same computer or not.

Isn't this the second or third time this has happened? Sara, try not to let this incident bother you...there is an explanation.

For what its worth...I noticed that my livescifi profile was erased and I had to re-register to access the forums. Maybe the site is being hacked...as I'm sure Tim would have e-mailed us if our accounts were deleted or modified.

Im looking into it the hacking side of things, as my hubby has done a hacking course and is responisble for keeping his network at work free from hackers. Im soo hoping no one has hacked into our stuff its a violation of privacy and disrespectful towards not only krazy and myself but to Tim and the Livescifi gang. I hope to report some news to you all asap

I Have updated the list of EVP's, and I really think Tim ticked it off.. Its just crazy listening to the audio.

It has to be very close to the mic at times, then backs away.. I can hear a real faint "Get out" constantly, but only a few times has it been loud enough to pull for a good evp.

man, we had a long talk in chat last night on the possibility of hackers. I asked my room mate and he said that it was entirely possible that some one did hack in since the chat doesn't appear to be encrypted.

Apparently to do this all they would need is a good working knowledge of Linux, the internet to learn how, and a chat account on livescifi. At that point, once they actually start typing as some one else it would appear to the web site that the info was coming from the same IP as the original Krzymoose or sara. There for they wouldn't be booted and have to sign back in.

My roomy said he could demonstrate but his Linux computers are down right now. Maybe some one else could try? I know nothing of computers. Hell, I killed mine yesterday because I forgot they need power to work.

man, we had a long talk in chat last night on the possibility of hackers. I asked my room mate and he said that it was entirely possible that some one did hack in since the chat doesn't appear to be encrypted.

Apparently to do this all they would need is a good working knowledge of Linux, the internet to learn how, and a chat account on livescifi. At that point, once they actually start typing as some one else it would appear to the web site that the info was coming from the same IP as the original Krzymoose or sara. There for they wouldn't be booted and have to sign back in.

My roomy said he could demonstrate but his Linux computers are down right now. Maybe some one else could try? I know nothing of computers. Hell, I killed mine yesterday because I forgot they need power to work.

each acct can only have one ip at time per connec. I guarantee this, lol...unless someone was really bored and figured out how to do this I highly doubt it..Sara, would be booted if she someone logged into her acct..perhaps she accidently hit copy and paste...i duno. 😉

Well didn't mean to cause a big to do over it. I just like to find things of what it could be before I point to what it might be. If you understand that *laugh*.
Not an expert on demons but not sure if they know how to type let alone what a computer is.

interesting when the ouji spelt man , does this mean spirits or entiys slowly try and break down a human being a take over? , so this thing at jimmys now wont give up ? , it seems when it talks on the ouji its very stubon and dosent really want to answer , so there might be no stopping this thing which is kind of humilating

This photo is strange ...the time was around 10:14 so I believe Norene was wearing the hat cam or maybe it was Les.

someone in the door way of jimmys bedroom? and r1 looks really weird.

I have no idea about this one.Small white figure in r2...also, who is that in cam r1?

can you post the evps in normal mode?

What did it mean by Les felt like she was getting into it and Tim was staring at her? Was someone(something) trying to come thru Tim?
Thank you for explaining.

Once again excellent work Spook and to everyone. I fell asleep on couch 😮 . Thanks for the awesome notes!!!