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(@tordik)
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I would like to know more about this. I understand you investigate for free but what exactly is the expense (besides traveling). I am sorry for my ignorance but I truly would like to put my money to good use and help those who truly want to make a difference.


 
Posted : 15/05/2008 1:31 am
(@ilook4spooks)
Posts: 214
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Well I know most teams mine included has a lot of expenses. We have the equipment to buy and keep up...and that is very costly. We have travel expenses, and also the cost of keeping up a web site and possibly hiring a web site person to do that work. In my case I do our teams web site so that saves us some money. Something else that can't be overlooked is film cost and developing. I use 35 mm as well as my digitals. That can rack a big bill up if you go through several rolls of film during an investigation. It is a very expensive hobby for my team that is for sure 😮 .


 
Posted : 15/05/2008 4:59 am
(@spook)
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if i am correct, the "donate" button appeared months back when the team went to the Union Cemetery (were featured on the local news & in the local paper in the area) to do an investigation and raise funds for the Cemetery as it had been victim to vandalism. so Livescifi wanted to help out! they matched our funds and gave a sizeable donation to the Cemetery.

Livescifi raised funds for a local police program for kids, and presented them with a cheque. (if i am correct)

Livescifi also used the donate button for those interested in going to Waverly Hills Sanitorium this coming July for an investigation. those who could make it, deposited their cost for the overnight visit in there.

as for other donations, it's best Tim explain that to you, as he will give a clear understanding of what it is about.

hope that helps!


 
Posted : 15/05/2008 4:44 pm
(@timbolsf)
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if i am correct, the "donate" button appeared months back when the team went to the Union Cemetery (were featured on the local news & in the local paper in the area) to do an investigation and raise funds for the Cemetery as it had been victim to vandalism. so Livescifi wanted to help out! they matched our funds and gave a sizeable donation to the Cemetery.

Livescifi raised funds for a local police program for kids, and presented them with a cheque. (if i am correct)

Livescifi also used the donate button for those interested in going to Waverly Hills Sanitorium this coming July for an investigation. those who could make it, deposited their cost for the overnight visit in there.

as for other donations, it's best Tim explain that to you, as he will give a clear understanding of what it is about.

hope that helps!

The donate button has always been there, we are trying hard to keep the site free without charging anyone and without cutting back on any of the things that we are trying to do. I have resisted to charging any monthly fees to help offset the montly costs because I didn't want it to take away from any viewers experience on enjoyin the site. To give people an idea of what some of the costs that we incur are, they include travel, equipment, streaming and server costs. We have never charged people for our services and if people think that we are making anything out of this you are crazy.
As for making a difference I thought we have a always tried to help out the paranormal community, families and others in need who believe that they are experiencing paranormal activity, while providing premium streams to our viewers so that can not only watch but actively participate during the course of an investigation. In terms of what people get out of the show when they watch it at this point I could care less, I know that myself and the rest of the team have tried and will continue our best to try to develop the streams and our investigative techniques to help those in need. If people that watch the show want to help us through donations thats great and if you can't then we totally understand, but every little bit helps. But, if people think that we don't try to make a difference in the community, then they obviously don't know me or livescifi.tv and aren't worth my time in the first place.


 
Posted : 15/05/2008 6:45 pm
(@krzymoose)
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I'd like to add my views on this as well. I was happy when Tim added the donate button a while ago because, believe it or not, there are those who inquired as to how they would go about helping the team out.

Tim has been to my house several times in the course of discovery and investigation. He's never asked me for a dime to help cover the costs I can clearly see are assosciated with every stream he does.

In my opinion I'm actually quite surprised this sight has remained free of charge. I'm not aware of anyone offering this type of service at no cost and personally wouldn't mind paying a small monthly subscription fee to help Tim keep this sight going. I can't even imagine how much out of pocket expense he has every month just to keep us all in chat and provide us with a look inside places where we normally wouldn't ever get to see. Not even including the personal cost to the team when they travel for investigations. Airfare...hotel...food..gas...etc.

The way I look at it, if we all donated just a little bit each month...even 5.00 it would help the team get to the places we all want him to go like Eastern State, Villesca, Whaley House...etc

Lets take a look at how giving Tim and his team have been towards all of us and maybe step us to the plate with a little help! 😁 I mean, after all he doesn't have to stream it for us...he would still investigate on his own.
I for one hope this keeps going for years to come but eventually things have to change because one person can't forever absorb the high costs associated with this service.

Tim isn't asking for a dime...it's purely elective....

Keep up the excellent work Livescifi....I will help anyway I can!!!


 
Posted : 15/05/2008 9:34 pm
(@timbolsf)
Posts: 1756
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I'd like to add my views on this as well. I was happy when Tim added the donate button a while ago because, believe it or not, there are those who inquired as to how they would go about helping the team out.

Tim has been to my house several times in the course of discovery and investigation. He's never asked me for a dime to help cover the costs I can clearly see are assosciated with every stream he does.

In my opinion I'm actually quite surprised this sight has remained free of charge. I'm not aware of anyone offering this type of service at no cost and personally wouldn't mind paying a small monthly subscription fee to help Tim keep this sight going. I can't even imagine how much out of pocket expense he has every month just to keep us all in chat and provide us with a look inside places where we normally wouldn't ever get to see. Not even including the personal cost to the team when they travel for investigations. Airfare...hotel...food..gas...etc.

The way I look at it, if we all donated just a little bit each month...even 5.00 it would help the team get to the places we all want him to go like Eastern State, Villesca, Whaley House...etc

Lets take a look at how giving Tim and his team have been towards all of us and maybe step us to the plate with a little help! 😁 I mean, after all he doesn't have to stream it for us...he would still investigate on his own.
I for one hope this keeps going for years to come but eventually things have to change because one person can't forever absorb the high costs associated with this service.

Tim isn't asking for a dime...it's purely elective....

Keep up the excellent work Livescifi....I will help anyway I can!!!

thanks for your support Diane. 😉


 
Posted : 15/05/2008 10:58 pm
(@ilook4spooks)
Posts: 214
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I'd like to add my views on this as well. I was happy when Tim added the donate button a while ago because, believe it or not, there are those who inquired as to how they would go about helping the team out.

Tim has been to my house several times in the course of discovery and investigation. He's never asked me for a dime to help cover the costs I can clearly see are assosciated with every stream he does.

In my opinion I'm actually quite surprised this sight has remained free of charge. I'm not aware of anyone offering this type of service at no cost and personally wouldn't mind paying a small monthly subscription fee to help Tim keep this sight going. I can't even imagine how much out of pocket expense he has every month just to keep us all in chat and provide us with a look inside places where we normally wouldn't ever get to see. Not even including the personal cost to the team when they travel for investigations. Airfare...hotel...food..gas...etc.

The way I look at it, if we all donated just a little bit each month...even 5.00 it would help the team get to the places we all want him to go like Eastern State, Villesca, Whaley House...etc

Lets take a look at how giving Tim and his team have been towards all of us and maybe step us to the plate with a little help! 😁 I mean, after all he doesn't have to stream it for us...he would still investigate on his own.
I for one hope this keeps going for years to come but eventually things have to change because one person can't forever absorb the high costs associated with this service.

Tim isn't asking for a dime...it's purely elective....

Keep up the excellent work Livescifi....I will help anyway I can!!!

If it ever got to the point where you have to charge a fee each month...I would be ok with it and would gladly pay my dues 😁 . I love this site and I love what Tim and the team are all about. The times that I don't have an investigation I get my fix by hanging out with you guys. I am grateful for that fact.


 
Posted : 16/05/2008 3:46 am
(@spook)
Posts: 1111
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The donate button has always been there, we are trying hard to keep the site free without charging anyone and without cutting back on any of the things that we are trying to do. I have resisted to charging any monthly fees to help offset the montly costs because I didn't want it to take away from any viewers experience on enjoyin the site. To give people an idea of what some of the costs that we incur are, they include travel, equipment, streaming and server costs. We have never charged people for our services and if people think that we are making anything out of this you are crazy.
As for making a difference I thought we have a always tried to help out the paranormal community, families and others in need who believe that they are experiencing paranormal activity, while providing premium streams to our viewers so that can not only watch but actively participate during the course of an investigation. In terms of what people get out of the show when they watch it at this point I could care less, I know that myself and the rest of the team have tried and will continue our best to try to develop the streams and our investigative techniques to help those in need. If people that watch the show want to help us through donations thats great and if you can't then we totally understand, but every little bit helps. But, if people think that we don't try to make a difference in the community, then they obviously don't know me or livescifi.tv and aren't worth my time in the first place.

you said it well Tim. Thank you! i know that costs amount, and i for one happily donate what i can from time to time. a monthly fee is like a "thank you" from me to the team. the fact that you share your investigations, thoughts, new ideas etc is truly wonderful. i must admit, i'm addicted to being here and watching progress in the search for the paranormal. you've brought unique ideas that i use when i'm out investigating, and the team has taught me alot. i'm so thankful for that!

toot toot to supporting our favourite team! 😁


 
Posted : 16/05/2008 6:15 pm
(@l-gaunder)
Posts: 677
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I know all of our costs come out of pocket so I know how that can be..heck it even costs us to investgate places *sigh* But what can ya do...
We have the news crew coming with us this Oct around halloween. We figured the Spanish Hospital since it would cost us 5K get the lighthouse for the night. Damn rip off artist since TAPS has been there...

But we are having a flea market this weekend
#1 to get money for equipment since I have been buying most of it and for travel expenses.
#2 Raise awareness of the paranormal
#3 Get some private clients to investigate

I think the $5 is very reasonable Tim. I use to have my own forum a while back and the place I bought from gave you options.
#1 Free with very very limited items.
#2 Gold which had a good amount of potions
#3 Premium which had everything included.
This might be something you could look into? Would be a b*tch to set up tho.

Like Free could be access to just the forum, Gold to just certain investigations and premium to everything...just a running thought.

Have a great w/e
Lori


 
Posted : 16/05/2008 9:18 pm
(@putty_tat007)
Posts: 71
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I'll put my little grain a salt in if you don't mind. I think much more money can be gathered by advertising and more money means better equipment, money for gas etc. Plus those who can and wish to donate still can and increase what can be done etc. I think that charging a fee will force some to leave and new members to pass LiveScifi by. I can promise you if I had come by this site and it was charging a fee I wouldn't have registered. I say this only to allow you another opinion that many hold on the net. I am aware that some might not care. I do think advertising should be seriously considered. Most big sites use it and I'm sure it's for a good reason. Thank you for your time, carry on. 😁


 
Posted : 17/05/2008 11:31 pm
(@putty_tat007)
Posts: 71
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I must say L.Gaunder idea is a good one also, maybe a combination of all three things would be good. I would only go to Chat when the team is investigating I really don't use anything else but maybe post every once in a while in the forum I can forgo that. I would hope all three would be a part of it and many of us could stay that way. Ok now carry on. 😉

Donate, advertise, levels for those wanting more from the site.


 
Posted : 17/05/2008 11:36 pm
(@tordik)
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okay, judging by some of the responses, I hope I am not misunderstood by my asking. When I logged on, it was the first time I saw the donate request and wondered if it was something specific to support (aka upcoming investigation or new equipment, etc).

When I stated i want to put my money to good use (because I have extra laying around), I meant this team. I have been here only a little while and have enjoyed the investigation and feel the sincerity from the team.

Either way, it was an honest question and didn't mean to make it sound like you were looking for handouts so I hope I didn't come across like a jerk.

See you all later int the chat for the investigation tonight!


 
Posted : 18/05/2008 12:23 am
(@andrew_56)
Posts: 32
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Hi all, I totally understand the practicality of member fees. But I also see what drew me to this site. The sincerity of the team and the people involved in our common goal. I have spread the word to others of the quality of our investigations and what sets us apart from the others and that result is the proof we acquire. I really do believe there are other means to finance the investigations as time developes. One such plan may include different levels on which the viewers can choose. Advertising, sponsors, donations are also in the mix. This once intimate family-like group can grow and still remain an interesting, thought provoking, and most of all, a fun place to be. Thats all I have presently and thanks again to the entire livescifi.tv family. Cheers and God bless.


 
Posted : 18/05/2008 12:32 am
(@melanies)
Posts: 267
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Hi all, I totally understand the practicality of member fees. But I also see what drew me to this site. The sincerity of the team and the people involved in our common goal. I have spread the word to others of the quality of our investigations and what sets us apart from the others and that result is the proof we acquire. I really do believe there are other means to finance the investigations as time developes. One such plan may include different levels on which the viewers can choose. Advertising, sponsors, donations are also in the mix. This once intimate family-like group can grow and still remain an interesting, thought provoking, and most of all, a fun place to be. Thats all I have presently and thanks again to the entire livescifi.tv family. Cheers and God bless.

I'm with Andrew on this one.

I look at the way we all criticized Mike last night (the "exorcist" Jimmy hired to cleanse his house) for taking money for the exorcism. I've always been of the mindset that if someone needs help and someone's able to help through gifts or talents they possess (when referring to the paranormal world), they should offer that help without cost. Now, I'm not talking travel expenses, hotel costs while traveling, etc. I'm talking charging for your talents and gifts....exploiting what you've been given.

To me, if we're going to make money to buy equipment, travel to investigations, etc, then sponsors, advertising, etc is a great way to go. But I do hope that we NEVER ever charge to investigate.


 
Posted : 18/05/2008 1:55 am
(@putty_tat007)
Posts: 71
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okay, judging by some of the responses, I hope I am not misunderstood by my asking. When I logged on, it was the first time I saw the donate request and wondered if it was something specific to support (aka upcoming investigation or new equipment, etc).

When I stated i want to put my money to good use (because I have extra laying around), I meant this team. I have been here only a little while and have enjoyed the investigation and feel the sincerity from the team.

Either way, it was an honest question and didn't mean to make it sound like you were looking for handouts so I hope I didn't come across like a jerk.

See you all later int the chat for the investigation tonight!

Well, I for one understand your sincere words and question Tordik and didn't see anything wrong with your question or the reason you asked it. Many have asked so your not the only one. You asked with perfect grace and with an open heart.

Thank you Andrew and MelanieS, it's always nice to hear everyones opinion.


 
Posted : 18/05/2008 2:13 am
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