Just saw "Donate to livescifi"

I'm sure Tim would continue to investigate even if he wasn't streaming.

I personally don't think that any of these costs he's talking about are general investigative costs. What is most likely digging the deepest hole is the actual cost to stream it to us.
I know that Tim wouldn't expect us to fund a hobby of his, but in my view if we really want to keep this sight going as it has something has to give somewhere.

I also would hate to see anyone go because of this...sincerely...

I'm sure Tim would continue to investigate even if he wasn't streaming.

I personally don't think that any of these costs he's talking about are general investigative costs. What is most likely digging the deepest hole is the actual cost to stream it to us.
I know that Tim wouldn't expect us to fund a hobby of his, but in my view if we really want to keep this sight going as it has something has to give somewhere.

I also would hate to see anyone go because of this...sincerely...

But many will, thus my reason to post my opinion and trying my best to see if something or a combination of things work. Not everyone is graced with enough money to spend monthly, even if $5 dollars seem petty to some to other's it's a question of paying bills etc. Don't forget these are hard times for a lot of people. I have received many messages and e-mails saying that (wont say who they are) can't afford the five dollars. So I figure advertising would bring the most in on top of fees for certain things. It's my feeble attempt to make this better not only for the Team, myself but for many and I mean many other's. Not only that but charging will keep people from registering, so if no one cares if this site grows or not then I say go for it. Again my attempt to help as much as I can under the circumstances.

Putty, I totally understand your concern and the point you are trying to make. I'm not sure what the answer is but I"m sure we can all come up with something. I know these are hard times for a lot of people, self included, but I also understand the expense and cost that must be crunching tim and the teams personal budget so I understand something must be done. Five dollars for membership doesn't sound like much and I"m wondering how much that will help livescifis budget. I'm thinking the membership fee will have to be more to make a dent in it and I know that more than five dollars would be hard for me to come up with....unless I cut other luxuries out of my budget like ....umm....internet! LOL (my budget is pretty much cut as much as possible)
I too would hate to see any one leave this site because of the fee and as much as I would hate it I"m sure Tim would hate it twice as much. Advertising may be an option, or at least something to look into, even though I'd hate to see the site so commercial...so everyone keep thinking about it, we'll come up with something. Remember, this is a discussion, meeting of the minds, so lets work together to come up with a brilliant idea to keep this site going. In the words of the "Wonder Pets"....whats gonna work? Teeeeeaaaaammmmm wooorkk! 😆

(Ideas: Sale t-shirts, have a bake sale! 😆 ...have a livescifi auctions, raffle something off....what? I dont know maybe a date with buddy! 😁 )

One idea is sell banner ads to businesses (I know I would buy one) to place on the livescifi site. One of my web design clients has a Mule/Horse site. He sells banners ads to businesses that sponsers his web site. He makes a good chunk off of it.

I have another client is is basically going to do the same thing. She has a web site that deals with getting out of poverty and she is selling classified ad slots on her site to fund her efforts. Her banners and ads has to come from a source that is "poor" friendly and offers services to those who are financially troubled. Her web site will be huge. She has written several books and the web site was advertised in them.

I tend to agree with L. guander, Andrew-56, Putty
-tat, MelanieS and ilookforspooks. They are giving alot of other options to consider. I would pay it's nothing to me, but a lot of people have difficulties. I can understand with the price of everything else in this world today. We should take into consideration some people only come to watch a live investagation, who would not have the opportunity to participate any other way. That is the main reason I am here. As everyone knows it is the only live investagation on the net and is greatly appreciated! Do what you must Tim for the sake of your sight.

One idea is sell banner ads to businesses (I know I would buy one) to place on the livescifi site. One of my web design clients has a Mule/Horse site. He sells banners ads to businesses that sponsers his web site. He makes a good chunk off of it.

I have another client is is basically going to do the same thing. She has a web site that deals with getting out of poverty and she is selling classified ad slots on her site to fund her efforts. Her banners and ads has to come from a source that is "poor" friendly and offers services to those who are financially troubled. Her web site will be huge. She has written several books and the web site was advertised in them.

Fantastic {{{{{Spooks}}}}} I hope Tim takes this into consideration. Would you know where Tim can get this banners from and who maybe pays the most? Just curious. 😉

Putty, I totally understand your concern and the point you are trying to make. I'm not sure what the answer is but I"m sure we can all come up with something. I know these are hard times for a lot of people, self included, but I also understand the expense and cost that must be crunching tim and the teams personal budget so I understand something must be done. Five dollars for membership doesn't sound like much and I"m wondering how much that will help livescifis budget. I'm thinking the membership fee will have to be more to make a dent in it and I know that more than five dollars would be hard for me to come up with....unless I cut other luxuries out of my budget like ....umm....internet! LOL (my budget is pretty much cut as much as possible)
I too would hate to see any one leave this site because of the fee and as much as I would hate it I"m sure Tim would hate it twice as much. Advertising may be an option, or at least something to look into, even though I'd hate to see the site so commercial...so everyone keep thinking about it, we'll come up with something. Remember, this is a discussion, meeting of the minds, so lets work together to come up with a brilliant idea to keep this site going. In the words of the "Wonder Pets"....whats gonna work? Teeeeeaaaaammmmm wooorkk! 😆

(Ideas: Sale t-shirts, have a bake sale! 😆 ...have a livescifi auctions, raffle something off....what? I dont know maybe a date with buddy! 😁 )

Oh I agree Chastam I'm not saying that Tim and the other team members aren't suffering {cost wise} I'm sure they are and a lot. I'm just suggesting other options and I don't care about commercializing the site as long as it gets what it needs to keep going and getting better equipment as they need it.

I for one have my feral cat's to consider and they come first. I pay for food, spay and neuter from my own pocket since non of the rescues want or can help. The rescues don't even answer my e-mails or phone calls, so be it. So you see there are many things people do on their own that don't permit for any extras. I wouldn't want to leave Livescifi, but I would have to. So in many ways I'm being selfish. I'm also very proud and refuse to take any handouts, I do things on my own and deal with it on my own. It's my nutting wild cat's that are my main concern.

I look at it this way...

1 night out entertainment: Total 2 hours
(Let’s just say going to the movies)

$10.00 to get in
$10.00 popcorn & drink
$5.00 for gas to get there and back home

TOTAL $25.00

Mean while I get to sit on my butt with a bunch of people I don’t know and will never talk to. And then I go home and think that was great but now what do we do? (And keeping in mind that is money just for myself not counting my children at the movies.)

When I could be at home with the LiveSciFi.com Crew and all of my friends in chat, for 8 nights out of a month on different investigations and 4 nights of Q&A for $5.00 a month LOL... sounds like a no brainer to me! 🙂

I don’t have to buy the Equipment, Pay for the Gas, Find places to investigate, By snacks (well maybe), Be Creative, Pay for/ run my own Server, Keep web pages/ everything updated, and put up with all these crazy people on this site. "Love you guys".

But lets be realistic NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS FREE. I have had to bust my butt for everything I have ever gotten in my life and it hasn’t come easy. Now don’t get me wrong I understand that money doesn’t come easy to most people and I know some just don’t have it. But as for myself and my daughter Bengal_Kisses we will gladly slap down our $10.00 and slide it across the table to Timmy for all the great work he does for our entertainment. I personally would like to thank the whole team for all that you do for all of us.

I’ve been watching a bunch of people getting really stiff backs over this whole $5.00 deal and I think it is really unfair of them to think that they should get something for nothing or push the bill off on someone else like an advertiser. As far as the advertising on livescifi it wont work because they would never sell anything because the same people that are unwilling to pay $5.00 a month will not be buying anything from the advertisers and they will stop advertising with Livescifi. Sorry it’s just the plain truth and you will still be paying for the whole thing yourself Tim!

I think I am going to change my name to blunt... I just have to keep it real. I am a business person and I know from personal experience that people will use you up till there is nothing left and then move onto the next person. Tim you have to look out for your own best interests and those who are loyal will be right by your side. I think everyone having free entertainment for the last year is enough charity on your part. Do what you gotta do and don’t take what others say/ feel so personal.

I didn't write this to start a debate. So just take it for what it is worth and move on!

I look at it this way...

1 night out entertainment: Total 2 hours
(Let’s just say going to the movies)

$10.00 to get in
$10.00 popcorn & drink
$5.00 for gas to get there and back home

TOTAL $25.00

Mean while I get to sit on my butt with a bunch of people I don’t know and will never talk to. And then I go home and think that was great but now what do we do? (And keeping in mind that is money just for myself not counting my children at the movies.)

When I could be at home with the LiveSciFi.com Crew and all of my friends in chat, for 8 nights out of a month on different investigations and 4 nights of Q&A for $5.00 a month LOL... sounds like a no brainer to me! 🙂

I don’t have to buy the Equipment, Pay for the Gas, Find places to investigate, By snacks (well maybe), Be Creative, Pay for/ run my own Server, Keep web pages/ everything updated, and put up with all these crazy people on this site. "Love you guys".

But lets be realistic NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS FREE. I have had to bust my butt for everything I have ever gotten in my life and it hasn’t come easy. Now don’t get me wrong I understand that money doesn’t come easy to most people and I know some just don’t have it. But as for myself and my daughter Bengal_Kisses we will gladly slap down our $10.00 and slide it across the table to Timmy for all the great work he does for our entertainment. I personally would like to thank the whole team for all that you do for all of us.

I’ve been watching a bunch of people getting really stiff backs over this whole $5.00 deal and I think it is really unfair of them to think that they should get something for nothing or push the bill off on someone else like an advertiser. As far as the advertising on livescifi it wont work because they would never sell anything because the same people that are unwilling to pay $5.00 a month will not be buying anything from the advertisers and they will stop advertising with Livescifi. Sorry it’s just the plain truth and you will still be paying for the whole thing yourself Tim!

I think I am going to change my name to blunt... I just have to keep it real. I am a business person and I know from personal experience that people will use you up till there is nothing left and then move onto the next person. Tim you have to look out for your own best interests and those who are loyal will be right by your side. I think everyone having free entertainment for the last year is enough charity on your part. Do what you gotta do and don’t take what others say/ feel so personal.

I didn't write this to start a debate. So just take it for what it is worth and move on!

AMEN!

Well said Jody!! 😁

I'll put my little grain a salt in if you don't mind. I think much more money can be gathered by advertising and more money means better equipment, money for gas etc. Plus those who can and wish to donate still can and increase what can be done etc. I think that charging a fee will force some to leave and new members to pass LiveScifi by. I can promise you if I had come by this site and it was charging a fee I wouldn't have registered. I say this only to allow you another opinion that many hold on the net. I am aware that some might not care. I do think advertising should be seriously considered. Most big sites use it and I'm sure it's for a good reason. Thank you for your time, carry on. 😁

Ok ill put in my little pepper.....lol I tend to agree with putty as far as if this had been a pay site 11 months ago when i found it I would defintitely not signed up..mainly because there are so many scams on the net and i am just really wary of paying for something like that.
BUT.......This place has become a really tight knit group or family if you will. With Auntie Spook and sister Train(woooowooo) and many others too many to mention...I know I sit in the background and dont get as involved as I used to but I do keep up with everyone.
I like the idea of the different levels of memberships,but i dont know if i would be able to or remember to pay every month..lol
I feel like Tim would put any funds to good and proper use without a doubt in my mind and I hope i am able to pay each month to keep up with everyone,but if i cant yall drop me a note every once in a while on myspace so i know its still going strong......will this is kinda long winded now so POOOF!!! I'm Gone!!!!!

if i am correct, the "donate" button appeared months back when the team went to the Union Cemetery (were featured on the local news & in the local paper in the area) to do an investigation and raise funds for the Cemetery as it had been victim to vandalism. so Livescifi wanted to help out! they matched our funds and gave a sizeable donation to the Cemetery.

Livescifi raised funds for a local police program for kids, and presented them with a cheque. (if i am correct)

Livescifi also used the donate button for those interested in going to Waverly Hills Sanitorium this coming July for an investigation. those who could make it, deposited their cost for the overnight visit in there.

as for other donations, it's best Tim explain that to you, as he will give a clear understanding of what it is about.

hope that helps!

The donate button has always been there, we are trying hard to keep the site free without charging anyone and without cutting back on any of the things that we are trying to do. I have resisted to charging any monthly fees to help offset the montly costs because I didn't want it to take away from any viewers experience on enjoyin the site. To give people an idea of what some of the costs that we incur are, they include travel, equipment, streaming and server costs. We have never charged people for our services and if people think that we are making anything out of this you are crazy.
As for making a difference I thought we have a always tried to help out the paranormal community, families and others in need who believe that they are experiencing paranormal activity, while providing premium streams to our viewers so that can not only watch but actively participate during the course of an investigation. In terms of what people get out of the show when they watch it at this point I could care less, I know that myself and the rest of the team have tried and will continue our best to try to develop the streams and our investigative techniques to help those in need. If people that watch the show want to help us through donations thats great and if you can't then we totally understand, but every little bit helps. But, if people think that we don't try to make a difference in the community, then they obviously don't know me or livescifi.tv and aren't worth my time in the first place.

Before i read any further then this..i just want to say a few things..i remember when the donation button went up, livescifi was raising dollars to help rebuild a cemetary where i believe was vandalized..and also there was another event that the raising of money was put to excellent use..Now i myself for whatever reason..has not been able to donate to those..i was on limited income and just did not have it during the events..or i would indeed have sent something..anything..but i had nothing...

Now to Livescifi...i cannot think of a better group of people then livescifi..if or when they may decide to start charging for watching..i will beg, borrow steal (kidding on the steal) to send in the monthly charge...i have been watching livescifi for over a year now and have seen alot...not only some of the best investigations ever..and some that did not work out..or accidents or 3 days of staying awake or fun car rides to the investigation or back home..with good tunes and great conversation..but Tim i feel has extended well beyond what is required..he has allowed us into his life..to see trips to the hospital...at xmas he turned on the camera and took us out to see xmas lights in the area..he has played GH3 and 2...we have watched him experiment with new stuff..he has turned on the camera for trips to the airport and even on the plane for takeoff..or nights of just camera on and chillin with tunes or videos and a few drinks..just for a drive to a store and back and chats with who ever is online in chat..and most of this is on his off days..not sat. tues and thurs....not to forget allowing us to spend sometime with sasha and baby Ethan at the hospital...personally i believe Tim cares alot about his viewers..but i agree to travel to allow us to see whats going on in other states is $$, the gas in his car, this site is not free for us, Tim pays, all the equipment and upkeep...and much much more...now todate i have not used the donate button tho i wish i could..but i just never seem to have the extra money..not even to help with the site..for that i feel bad....but again i have zero problem with paying for this site..as this site is my addiction and my entertainment..and i totally love this site..and for $5.00 a month its more then worth it..dang i pay $5.00 for the scream channel on my cable..and hardly a movie worth watching...and lastly its not just Tim and the team i love, but alot of the friends i have met on here, that keeps me coming back..some whom i have grown close to like having a brother or sister...i went 9 months without cable and found livescifi to be my other cable and i hope they stay around livescifi for many years to come..okay my speach is done lol..just wanted to get my feeling out as i have been either away or problems with my comp...love you all xoxoxo train

One idea is sell banner ads to businesses (I know I would buy one) to place on the livescifi site. One of my web design clients has a Mule/Horse site. He sells banners ads to businesses that sponsers his web site. He makes a good chunk off of it.

I have another client is is basically going to do the same thing. She has a web site that deals with getting out of poverty and she is selling classified ad slots on her site to fund her efforts. Her banners and ads has to come from a source that is "poor" friendly and offers services to those who are financially troubled. Her web site will be huge. She has written several books and the web site was advertised in them.

Fantastic {{{{{Spooks}}}}} I hope Tim takes this into consideration. Would you know where Tim can get this banners from and who maybe pays the most? Just curious. 😉

Hey he can solicit business owners to advertise and place their banner on his site. Normally most businesses have their own banners and would send them to Tim to place on his site. I have ran accross a few people who did not have banners but wanted to advertise with my clients ...so I made their banners for them for a small fee. I usually do them using Gimp which is a program like Adobe Photo Shop. It is not hard. Also time could think about doing this live as well...maybe for a little extra he can display that companies info during the stream.

Oh I agree Chastam I'm not saying that Tim and the other team members aren't suffering {cost wise} I'm sure they are and a lot. I'm just suggesting other options and I don't care about commercializing the site as long as it gets what it needs to keep going and getting better equipment as they need it.

I for one have my feral cat's to consider and they come first. I pay for food, spay and neuter from my own pocket since non of the rescues want or can help. The rescues don't even answer my e-mails or phone calls, so be it. So you see there are many things people do on their own that don't permit for any extras. I wouldn't want to leave Livescifi, but I would have to. So in many ways I'm being selfish. I'm also very proud and refuse to take any handouts, I do things on my own and deal with it on my own. It's my nutting wild cat's that are my main concern.

Off topic...but I want to say thank you for taking care of the cats. I do animal rescue here and it is a thankless job. I am trying to get my community of OLD SET IN THEIR WAYS STUBBORN people to realize the importance of Spay and Neuter. I volunteer for a humane society in Va who helps me with my rescues with the spaying and neutering which is a huge relief. We have 12 kittens that resulted from 2 strays we took in that was ready to pop and they delivered 2 days after getting here we have 11 adult cats. We also have 15 dogs here. I have to say I would have a lot more money if I did not have so many animals...and I am like you. They come first.

Oh I agree Chastam I'm not saying that Tim and the other team members aren't suffering {cost wise} I'm sure they are and a lot. I'm just suggesting other options and I don't care about commercializing the site as long as it gets what it needs to keep going and getting better equipment as they need it.

I for one have my feral cat's to consider and they come first. I pay for food, spay and neuter from my own pocket since non of the rescues want or can help. The rescues don't even answer my e-mails or phone calls, so be it. So you see there are many things people do on their own that don't permit for any extras. I wouldn't want to leave Livescifi, but I would have to. So in many ways I'm being selfish. I'm also very proud and refuse to take any handouts, I do things on my own and deal with it on my own. It's my nutting wild cat's that are my main concern.

Hi {{{{{ilook4spooks}}}}} thank you and only a person who does there best to help these little souls can truly understand the way we feel. I have also helped in rescue in Va and found many homes for dog's and cat's on death row in Va and one shelter that closed down. Not just me alone but a huge group of us all around the USA. I thank you for your hard work and undying love for these little ones who no one seems to care about. Bless your sweet and loving heart and I wish you the best my friend.

Putty_tat007.

Off topic...but I want to say thank you for taking care of the cats. I do animal rescue here and it is a thankless job. I am trying to get my community of OLD SET IN THEIR WAYS STUBBORN people to realize the importance of Spay and Neuter. I volunteer for a humane society in Va who helps me with my rescues with the spaying and neutering which is a huge relief. We have 12 kittens that resulted from 2 strays we took in that was ready to pop and they delivered 2 days after getting here we have 11 adult cats. We also have 15 dogs here. I have to say I would have a lot more money if I did not have so many animals...and I am like you. They come first.