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(@anddos)
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i am just wondering why you can only hear evp when they play it back , why wouldent you hear it the same time it happens ? , would be awsome if the device streamed the evp sound live


 
Posted : 14/01/2008 12:27 am
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i am just wondering why you can only hear evp when they play it back , why wouldent you hear it the same time it happens ? , would be awsome if the device streamed the evp sound live

in theory you guys should be able to hear evps in real time because they being digitally encoded..anyways I recieve a new batch of mics and other experimental equip which I am building this week so we'll see if we can get that sound better..


 
Posted : 14/01/2008 2:56 am
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I know that some of the viewers while watching will comment on hearing things that the investigators don't hear, but until we all get lucky enough for a viewer to hear a voice saying something that is later confirmed by recordings I guess we can't really be sure if us viewers can hear evp's.


 
Posted : 14/01/2008 3:13 am
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I know that some of the viewers while watching will comment on hearing things that the investigators don't hear, but until we all get lucky enough for a viewer to hear a voice saying something that is later confirmed by recordings I guess we can't really be sure if us viewers can hear evp's.

Just thought this would be a good tim to clarify the difference between EVPs and disembodied voices..

EVPs - are voices or sounds which are not heard by the human ear but are recorded at that moment in time using typically analog or digital devices.

Disembodied Voices - Are voices that are heard by the human ear, sometimes the voices or noises are not picked up on recording equipment.


 
Posted : 14/01/2008 6:28 am
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I know 🙂
Though does that make it so that the sounds you guys pick up on the live stream don't count as evp's since they are recorded and not heard at the site of the investigation? Since it isn't heard at the site and picked up on a recording that just happens to be playing back in real time.


 
Posted : 14/01/2008 7:00 pm
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I know 🙂
Though does that make it so that the sounds you guys pick up on the live stream don't count as evp's since they are recorded and not heard at the site of the investigation? Since it isn't heard at the site and picked up on a recording that just happens to be playing back in real time.

Without making this post too complicated one of the main theories surround evps is that the frequencies that are detected are outside of what the human ear can hear at the time. Most human ears hear sound between the frequency range of 20 hz and 20, 000 hz. However most recorders and mics are between 100 hz - 12, 000 hz.


 
Posted : 14/01/2008 8:44 pm
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so what do you exactly do when you play it back , do you just to turn up the volume really high or something , i cant see why you couldent stream evp noises live instead of waiting to play it back , surely theres away


 
Posted : 14/01/2008 9:36 pm
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You can't hear EVP's?

That's strange, when I was in the Army we had a guy in our unit in Korea who's name was Ernest Vanderpool, when he got VD, everyone hear him when he Pee'd..... 😮


 
Posted : 15/01/2008 2:48 am
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The theory thus far here is that the entity or spirit possesses an electrical property about it. There are two ways a recorder can record. By definition, a microphone is nothing but a device that converts sound pressure into an electrical signal for audio circuits to then amplify and impress onto your tape or (to keep this explanation simple) be sampled and written into your digital voice recorders memory.

The sound pressure part, we do hear of course but the electrical conversion takes place in the recorder and to hear that we need to play back the recording. Now if some thing electrical occurs, the microphone circuitry (not the microphone itself necessarily) will process the signal as if the microphone caught it and put it there. So what I am saying again is there are two ways to record on a recorder.

1) normal sound pressure into the microphone, gets converted to electrical or electronic signal and processed normally.

2) something which modulates at or near the mircophone and bypasses the mircophones element thus not needing the microphones conversion properties, but is already electrical in nature and gets processed by the recorder.

This would explain why evp's aren't heard by the ear at the time of capture. I personally have gotten evp's which are just a blip, and require software to slow them down. Spirits obviously have no concept of time. I dont think I ahve any which are too slow, but I sure have some which are sped up to where they sound like a quick speedy blurt. My experience in the audio tells me, "hey that was a quick audio blast I think". When I slow it down to say 10% of its speed, sure enough, theres a spirit answering my
question or addressing me. I can point to some evps on my myspace page on a player I have rigged up. A spirit who calls herself Mary Driscol did just that. The answers are very fast, unintelligable, but I can hear the breaks like it is, in fact, words or a sentence perhaps. When slowed down, I hear "yes I'm here", or "I'm a Mary Driscol", or even called by name "yes Ed I'm here, now go to bed, goodnight". That took place on the bow of the Queen Mary in the art museum this past winter. my myspace page is http://wwwyspace.com/ir_rules

I can go into more depth but for the sake of conveying my point I had better keep to this. Things like response curves and whatnot are more interesting in that how does the spirit know what frequency to talk on? It isn't that compliated because we are using aural frequency as if they were alive with volcal chords but they don't ahve vocal chords so lots of hte evp's are a hashy whispery sound.

Hope this helps.

p.s., yes you turn up the volume in the dead sound areas usually between living peoples words. Intentionally ask a question aloud and wait abotu 10 seconds. Play back the 10 seconds and see if you got an answer. You'll be surprised one of these times.

ed


 
Posted : 15/06/2008 1:57 pm
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The theory thus far here is that the entity or spirit possesses an electrical property about it. There are two ways a recorder can record. By definition, a microphone is nothing but a device that converts sound pressure into an electrical signal for audio circuits to then amplify and impress onto your tape or (to keep this explanation simple) be sampled and written into your digital voice recorders memory.

The sound pressure part, we do hear of course but the electrical conversion takes place in the recorder and to hear that we need to play back the recording. Now if some thing electrical occurs, the microphone circuitry (not the microphone itself necessarily) will process the signal as if the microphone caught it and put it there. So what I am saying again is there are two ways to record on a recorder.

1) normal sound pressure into the microphone, gets converted to electrical or electronic signal and processed normally.

2) something which modulates at or near the mircophone and bypasses the mircophones element thus not needing the microphones conversion properties, but is already electrical in nature and gets processed by the recorder.

This would explain why evp's aren't heard by the ear at the time of capture. I personally have gotten evp's which are just a blip, and require software to slow them down. Spirits obviously have no concept of time. I dont think I ahve any which are too slow, but I sure have some which are sped up to where they sound like a quick speedy blurt. My experience in the audio tells me, "hey that was a quick audio blast I think". When I slow it down to say 10% of its speed, sure enough, theres a spirit answering my
question or addressing me. I can point to some evps on my myspace page on a player I have rigged up. A spirit who calls herself Mary Driscol did just that. The answers are very fast, unintelligable, but I can hear the breaks like it is, in fact, words or a sentence perhaps. When slowed down, I hear "yes I'm here", or "I'm a Mary Driscol", or even called by name "yes Ed I'm here, now go to bed, goodnight". That took place on the bow of the Queen Mary in the art museum this past winter. my myspace page is http://wwwyspace.com/ir_rules

I can go into more depth but for the sake of conveying my point I had better keep to this. Things like response curves and whatnot are more interesting in that how does the spirit know what frequency to talk on? It isn't that compliated because we are using aural frequency as if they were alive with volcal chords but they don't ahve vocal chords so lots of hte evp's are a hashy whispery sound.

Hope this helps.

p.s., yes you turn up the volume in the dead sound areas usually between living peoples words. Intentionally ask a question aloud and wait abotu 10 seconds. Play back the 10 seconds and see if you got an answer. You'll be surprised one of these times.

ed

ed thanks for the insight full post, I tend to forget sometimes of how the sound that hear is created once the microphone passes it on to your ears...which has just given me some new ideas for experiments in how to play with this.


 
Posted : 15/06/2008 7:50 pm
 mace
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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =326754001
thats the real link
ed made a few mistakes in the link .
and btw ed impressive stuff there and thnx for the info on evp's


 
Posted : 15/06/2008 11:34 pm
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Can't that sound / pressure on the mic also be felt? Movement of the tympanic membrane that can be recognized, but not to the point that it can be interpreted? Hence the necessity of recording?


 
Posted : 02/07/2008 1:35 am
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